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Peter Vallone:
Old Fashioned Values and
Old Fashioned Politics

By MICHAEL SCHENKLER

I’ve been waiting to find a candidate for Mayor. I’ve been hoping.

I’d love it to be a guy from Queens — we’ve got two and certainly neither is bad. The whole field isn’t bad. But is it good?

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Vallone and Schenkler.
photo: Dee Richard

Sadly, the talk of the pundits this year is that the field of Democratic candidates consists of four competent, experienced individuals . . . but not one star. I’m sitting and waiting for one to emerge — a star — at least to me. New York City deserves a star. New York City needs a star.

If that star came from Queens, it would glow even brighter.

So, when Council Speaker Peter Vallone’s office called and wanted to set up a sit down (I like that phrasing), I was hoping.

I had interviewed the Speaker previously. He came to our office a number of years ago — not election time, no great issues at stake and it was a large group sit down. I had invited a handful of reporters and editors and we all got to know the Speaker.

Now he was candidate for Mayor. And although I’ve watched him steer the council for fifteen years, I was never bowled over. He didn’t seem like a star. When he ran for Governor, although he spins it differently talking about an impressive victory in the City, I wasn’t impressed.

Now, I’m not knocking Peter Vallone or his lifetime of public service. He is a fine dedicated champion of the people. He is a skilled politician with more experience than Sid Davidoff at getting things done in government. He just never impressed me as being a star. Sorry!

But maybe I missed the twinkle, the glow. Now, I’m not looking for all sex and charisma. I’m not looking for superhuman qualities. I’m looking for the top — the City’s most able, brightest, compassionate leader to come forward and take on the second toughest job in the country.

There certainly is one guy up to the task. But I don’t think he’s going to leave his Harlem office to run for Gracie Mansion. But stars do exist.

Maybe "star" is the wrong word. "Exceptional Individual" might describe it better.

Rudy Giuliani is an exceptional individual . . . too bad compassion and understanding don’t complement his drive, intelligence and determination. The Mayor is bright and able. But, he’s sadly lacking the humanity to elevate his outstanding talents to star quality.

Well, maybe there is no "star" in this race and I have to settle for the best. But I am ready to give each a look. Remember, none of the four seems bad. Any of them could be my candidate.

Then a month ago, I lunched with Peter Vallone, Jr. – the forty-something year-old son of the Speaker who is running to replace his father as Councilman from Astoria.

On April 5, I wrote about Pete Jr.’s image of his father:

"The young Vallone (actually the oldest of three sons — Peter, Perry and Paul — of Tina and Peter Vallone) was not selling himself for the Council seat. He was pitching his father for Mayor. He was convincing, compassionate and honestly showed the love and respect he had for his father. There is no doubt that Pete, Jr. came from a household filled with love and respect where basic values were the focus of raising kids. The affection and respect of a son for his father that I witnessed is all too rare in kids today, no matter how old.

"‘He’s a much nicer person than I am,’ Pete said of his father. ‘I can tell you he’d never make backroom deals, he just doesn’t do those things,’ he related without doubt.

"I came away from the lunch with a new take on the powerful, seemingly autocratic Council Speaker. Although Peter, Sr. has always been portrayed as a good man of deep religious conviction, to me, he was still the leader of a shoddy Council that he ruled with iron fist — except on term limit repeal.

"But a son’s compassion has made this writer rethink his position. There are no political conclusions yet. But it seems that Peter Vallone Sr. is a remarkable man — no judgment yet on his ability to run the City."

Calendar forward one month to Friday afternoon. Peter, Sr. was coming to the Trib and I wanted to find out if he really was that remarkable. Was he a star? Could he be my candidate?

Unlike most interviews, I didn’t ask the editorial staff to sit in. I wanted to have the opportunity to control the interview, meet the candidate, get inside his head and find out how exceptional he was. I invited Trib editor Tamara Hartman, who was going to take notes and possibly write a story of the interview. Associate Publisher Mike Nussbaum – who knows Vallone better than I – was nice enough to uninvite himself to let me "have a go" at the Speaker.

A day or two before the interview, I received an email from my new friend, Peter, Jr., he said: So I hear you’re speaking to the Speaker soon.   Ask him some tough questions about details.  Then see the difference between ability and rhetoric.  Have fun.

I intended to. To me politics is having fun. And since picking up the weekly responsibility of writing a political column, I knew it was the tough questions and the tough columns that make readers want to read you.

And this column is a real tough one to write.

The Interview

Bernice Spitzer (Council Public Information Officer — Press liaison), Pat Reilly (Council Director of State Affairs — lobbyist) and James S. Vobis (Administrative Manager — advance man) arrived first. After the Speaker came and our interview started, Mike Regan (Chief Information Officer — press secretary) joined us. Other Council staffers arrived later, but they remained outside. I assume they were preparing for the next stop.

Well, Peter showed up pretty close to our 4 PM Friday afternoon appointed time. He, Tamara, Spitzer, Reilly, and Vobis joined me in my office. Our photographer, Dee Richard, took a couple of shots and left the six of us in my office. After coffee was offered, we got down to business.

"Peter," I asked, "Are you here as Speaker or Mayoral candidate."

"I’m here as a candidate," he quickly responded.

"Then why," I replied, "Are there four members of the Council staff here?"

"This is okay," the Speaker replied, "we’ve gotten a ruling from counsel."

I spent the next ten minutes trying to poke holes in Peter’s position.

"I’m not talking letter of the law, I insisted, "It’s just wrong. Isn’t it?"

I gave him every opportunity to recant his defense of having Council staff actively involved in a Mayoral campaign interview. He didn’t.

"In this race it is all [the four Democratic mayoral candidates] city employees" with public staffs, he claimed.

"And what about Bloomberg (the millionaire media mogul seeking the Republican nomination)," I asked?

"He can afford to pay for his staff," Vallone retorted in an attempt to lighten the moment.

Peter held his ground. There is nothing wrong with using the City Council employees (apparently while they’re on City time) to assist him in his race for mayor.

"I can’t use my office for campaign meetings or make fundraising calls on the City phone," he explained, "but Counsel has issued an opinion that this is all right."

We danced through other instances where I alleged abuse of City Council funds for campaign purposes.

Vallone agreed that Jeff Gottlieb’s use of Morty Povman’s Council office was wrong and questioned some other gray area actions. "The Speaker will speak to Morton Povman. I have to see about this . . . what action is taken. It sure as hell better not happen again."

I told Vallone about his friend and colleague Herb Berman, a Brooklyn Councilmember since 1975. For the first quarter of a century of his service on the Council including more than a decade as Finance chair, Berman never sent the Trib a press release. We assumed his Brooklyn constituency was the target of his public outreach. We receive only rare contact from non-Queens or citywide officials. Berman’s first 25 years were normal. His Council office didn’t contact us.

Then Berman decided to run for City Comptroller and he discovered the Trib. He sends us stuff — at City expense. We assume he sends it to other papers in other boroughs — papers that never heard from Herb Berman until he decided to run for citywide office.

"Why Mr. Speaker," I asked, "should this be allowed?"

"He’s the second most important person in the council and is doing his job as finance chair, " Vallone responded. "It’s perfectly legal. You can’t stop being what you are [when you’re an elected official] . . . we’ve done this every single year and I believe it is perfectly alright to do, or I wouldn’t do it. Less than 30 percent of the people vote. If it is an advantage [to have a staff, mailings, etc.] then it should be an advantage. We didn’t just fall out of the sky. They [voters] don’t know what we do now."

"But Bill Thompson resigned as Board of Education president to run for Comptroller," I commented.

"That was a wrong decision," Vallone observed.

The adventure continued.

We moved off the topic of abuse of Council funds for campaign purposes. I then discover the compassionate man who is running on his experience and his record. I saw a man who cares deeply about the people of this City and thinks he can make a difference.

I also saw a skilled politician who wasn’t making waves.

"Yes, Board of Education members are supposed to be independent according to the City Charter, but that doesn’t mean they can’t have another type of arrangement with the Borough President who appointed them," Vallone spun in order to avoid criticism of Claire Shulman’s call for Terri Thomson’s resignation.

Peter Vallone came across as an old fashioned politician with old fashioned values.

I found the two incompatible.

The old fashioned values, ethics and morality that Pete Jr. spoke of at the lunch table may have been there but they didn’t seem to prevent the Speaker from justifying activities that were considered wrong when I first played in Queens politics some 25 years ago. Today, I consider them outrageous.

In fairness, I extend an offer to the Speaker, to provide us with the opinion of counsel stating that it is acceptable for Council staff members to work on campaigns while they are on public time and payroll and to also prepare a written statement for publication explaining to us and our readers why it is an acceptable practice.

I enjoyed the two hour session with the Speaker.

I like Peter Vallone.

This was one tough column to write.

But a quarter of a centuy ago, I learned that when elected officials use staffers for campaigns they do so on lunch hours, after hours or they take leaves. Those are the rules as we know them. At times, we’ve seen officials tap dancing, claiming campaign activities were really official activities.

That was not the case with Vallone. "This is a campaign interview and I can use City Council staff and I have opinion of Counsel that says so," was his belief.

Sorry Peter, you’re wrong. Dead wrong!

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Not4Publication.com by Dom Nunziato

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Michael Schenkler can be reached at: MSchenkler@QueensTribune.com

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